Price check: 2005 Caronne-Ste-Gemme Haut Medoc
2005 Caronne-Ste-Gemme, Bordeaux, Costco, Price Check, Whole Foods
Today, we find ourselves the victims of our own “price check” feature. We had to pick a few items up at Costco, and as is our habit, we also perused the wine aisles. Sadly, we found ourselves in the position of Whole Foods, seeing one item in common with Costco that we’re far from competitive on from a price perspective. In fact, Costco not offers a better price. They offer a much, much, much better price. Like, ridiculously good. What some wine stores might bill in email blasts as “an out-and-out steal” worthy of a “five case buy!”
So, while we’re going to suggest you buy the 2005 Caronne-Ste-Gemme, don’t buy it from us — at least not yet, anyhow. We’re currently charging $29.99 for it, our regular retail mark-up based on our wholesale cost. At Costco, the same bottle will run you a mere $13.99. Less than half our price. Holy crapola!
We’re thinking that maybe this pricing is a mistake, since the only store offering the CSG for in the teens is Zachy’s, and it’s listed there at $15.99, but for a 375ml bottle. The retailer closest to Costco’s price, in the LA area, is Wine Exchange in Orange, offering a 750ml bottle for $21.99. WineEx undoubtedly bought this on pre-arrival, or perhaps they import themselves. Not really sure about that.
Mistake or not, this is one you should take advantage of while it lasts. We picked up a bottle for ourselves (heck, it cost us less than from our distributor) and popped it open last night. We were amazed at the approachability and depth of the wine, and feel that at $29.99 it’s a good buy. At $13.99 it’s a ridonkulous steal, and you’re not going to find a California Cab at this level for anywhere near this price. Go buy yourself some of this wine at Costco…and don’t worry about us, since once their supply diminishes (or they correct their pricing error), we think demand on this Haut-Medoc will stay strong. It may take some time, but we shouldn’t have a problem placing our bottles — eventually.
FYI, we saw this at the Los Feliz location of Costco in Los Angeles, and just confirmed that it’s also available at the Culver City/Marina del Rey location for the same price (maybe it’s not a mistake after all). It is very likely available at other branches. Oddly, it was placed away from the higher end wines, and closer to the Kirkland brands, so you may have to peek around to find it. Don’t know what’s up with that.
NB, we do not mark up this wine any more than standard retail percentages, so our price is based solely on our cost. We’ll set ourselves aside from Whole Foods in this regard, since our major issue with WF comes when we’ve deduced that their mark up exceeds a percentage we consider fair.
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The Business of Saying No:
No, I am not a natural wine merchant.
And no, I am also not not a natural wine merchant.
So what exactly is my store, Domaine LA? This is a tricky question that I try to answer here.
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A couple of months back, I participated in the first annual Los Angeles Natural Wine Week, spearheaded by Lou Amdur of Lou Wine Bar. At that time, I took some heat from a few folks around the Internet who felt I might have been merely capitalizing on a trend and didn’t see me as a true natural wine merchant.
The thing is, I’ve never claimed to be a natural wine merchant. When I started my business online a few years ago, I stated plainly that I wanted to sell wines I loved. I was an enthusiast with a fairly receptive, wide-ranging palate, and I considered learning about wine a journey I would be going on alongside my customers. While I’ve since expanded my business to include a brick and mortar space, my self-conception and mission statement haven’t really changed. But my palate has.
To be absolutely blunt about it, I used to love wines that I simply can’t stomach anymore. There are blog posts archived on my website that in retrospect make me cringe, paragraphs singing the praises of some of the most blatantly manipulated wines in the world. I once criticized a wine bar for not having any Southern Hemisphere selections; it’s now my favorite spot in Los Angeles. And today I carry barely a dozen Southern Hemisphere SKUs myself.
By and large, my palate-shift is reflected in what I bring into the store. Chris Ringland and Mollydooker have been replaced by Eric Texier and Thierry Puzelat; the California fruit- and alcohol-bombs, for the most part, have given way to wines from La Clarine Farm, Donkey and Goat and LIOCO.
As a result of my largely obscure inventory, almost every day I’m faced with customers asking for items that I don’t stock. On a regular basis, I hear:
“Do you have Rombauer Chardonnay?”
No, I answer.
“Do you have Caymus?”
Afraid not, I reply.
“What about Blackstone Merlot?”
So sorry, but no.
“Where’s the Veuve Clicquot? This is a gift. I need the recipient to know it’s nice!”
Sigh.
Saying no to people sets up a potentially risky relationship that may start and end with that one exchange—many customers want what they want and aren’t open to alternative suggestions. In other cases, however, that simple “no” can be the beginning of something beautiful, a dialogue that winds up with a customer who came in looking for the Prisoner instead going home with something like Morgan Twain-Peterson’s Bedrock Heirloom Red, a wine which, while perhaps not 100% natural, is a more honest “made in the vineyard” (yes, I know this is also a cliché) version of what the Prisoner purports to be.
Of course, sometimes that customer really just wants the Prisoner. Which leads me to my major confession here: despite more than a bit of ambivalence, I continue to sell the Prisoner, along with other wines that are by no means natural, wines that are quite frankly manufactured. The Prisoner sits on the shelf right next to the Bedrock Heirloom Red, and for the time being, it will stay there. At least twice a week people come in asking specifically for this wine, and, for several reasons, it’s a request I’m not—yet—willing to deny.

Even though I no longer drink the Prisoner, there was a time–not too long ago–when I did so happily. When I first started getting interested in wine, it was a bottle that captured my imagination and helped launch me on the journey I remain committed to today. So maybe I keep the Prisoner around out of a sense of nostalgia. Or maybe I keep it around to remind me how far I’ve come. Maybe I keep it around hoping that for those who ask for it, it will simply be their starting place just as it was mine.
Or, more cynically, maybe I keep it around because people buy it. Maybe it’s a crutch to lean on when I’m too tired to hand-sell the less familiar items on my shelves. Seeing something recognizable is comforting to consumers, and that comfort somehow lends me credibility; credibility is a precedent to trust. Trust is what enables me to recommend something different to a customer who normally drinks the Prisoner.
In this sense, the Prisoner is of great value to me, not just as an easy sell, but even more so as a gateway to all the other wines I have available. I don’t know that I’d be able to move as much of the Bedrock, an unknown wine with a tiny case production, without the Prisoner right next to it.
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Saying no is extremely hard. Right now, I’m willing to do so 90% of the time, maybe even 95%. Call me a coward or a fake if you want. But I know where I started out, and it’s been a logical evolution. And while I’m headed in a particular direction, guided by my palate, it’s safe to assume I won’t ever be a 100% “natural wine merchant.”
I like to think there’s room for somebody like me—somebody with confidence in her tastes, who also takes into account modes of production in buying decisions; someone who has a particular point of view, yet retains an inclusive attitude. I am strong in my opinions, and enthusiastic in my passions. I never judge my customers, and hope that they’ll be as open-minded and respectful of my offerings as I am of their preferences.
So far, it seems to be working out. In recent months, I’ve brought in only one case of the Prisoner (less than a thousandth of a percent of its total production) for every three cases of the Bedrock (1.3% of its total production).
So, what am I?
I’m not a natural wine merchant. And I’m not not a natural wine merchant.
I’m a work in progress. And I’m okay with that.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
This is such good service, so honest and open, and so wonderfully refreshing it almost makes me cry that I cannot buy wine from you as I’m based in the UK.
Keep this up and I might just have to jack in my other businesses and open up domaine457.co.uk as a disciple!
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I agree Robert, this is incredible. When I talk about honesty, whether it be in politics or business, this is exactly what I mean. Put your cards on the table, even if it makes your service come in second best. Why? Simply because you are an open deck, and an open deck equals trust. And if you, Jill, are trustworthy, you are invaluable to me as a supplier. I know you will always give me the best offer, even if that doesn’t mean it comes from you. Therefore, I will tell every single one of my friends, family and clients, “Hey, Jill at Domaine 547 is amazing, and this why…” In the end, the business will come back to you in spades. Thank you for creating such a fabulous example for us all to follow!
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Here Here! This is a GREAT POST and one that people should spread about…everyone, look here!!!
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Above and beyond in the honesty department. Sniff, it makes me sad that I can’t buy from you either since I live in a draconian no-ship state.
April 23rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
HOLY CRAP!!!
I wish I could buy from you!
April 24th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Goodness me - what a remarkable post. It’s a pity I can’t buy from you too form here in the UK
April 24th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Thanks for the support guys — funny that it comes from people out of the country and from non-compliant States. Everybody in Cali is apparently running to Costco to pick up a case of the Caronne Ste. Gemme!
April 24th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Well, what a coincidence…I am heading to Costco today. What an unbelievable price. Thanks for the heads up.
April 25th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Very impressive! Good for you! This is something we all can learn from. Will you keep the wine on your site? The Americans…always ahead!
May 8th, 2008 at 3:26 am
This just goes to show, it is not ALWAYS about price. Though, I am extremely tempted to buy the wine at Costco, I always value service above price (when I can afford it…lol).
Keep doing what you are doing!
May 14th, 2008 at 1:15 am
As owners of chateau Caronne Ste Gemme we are dumbfounded by such a price that does not reflect what we try to put in the wine and does not leave a sensible margin to those who are in charge of making it known. Costco has bought the wine from a merchant in Bordeaux at the regular price and we just cannot understand how they can sell it at that price.
Bravo to “domaine547″ for their service and loyalty to customers.
F.Nony