Gary Vaynerchuk’s Crushpad Project

August 31st, 2007

We’ll admit we were both relieved and disappointed at Gary V’s announcement yesterday. We had all sorts of theories that he was going to be franchising his store to LA and converting the few but loyal Domainiacs to Vayniacs.

But what he announced doesn’t seem too revolutionary to us. More like a great business plan where he creates his own Cult Cab brand, and then makes a huge amount of money pre-selling the stuff (Screaming Eagle mailing-list-style) and then inviting free labor along for the ride, footing their own bill to boot! No distributors or wineries to pay. A small cut to Crushpad and the rest cuts out the middle-man.

Okay, so the concept of a community wine is fun, but groundbreaking? We were a little underwhelmed. Please weigh in!

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12 Responses to “Gary Vaynerchuk’s Crushpad Project”

  1. Gravatar Icon monkuwino

    I was surprised myself. While it is true that this is a great way to make money (the publicity, pre-sales, cheap labor, etc.), it is also keeping in line with his constantly promoted theme of everyone being in the Vayniac family. I think it’s going to promote a lot of loyalty and keep him in the forefront of things, but also promote goodwill among all the participants. I’m not sure if I would buy a bottle myself but it’s a brilliant idea. I’m also glad he’s staying on as host - he’s the whole show so it makes no sense for him to leave.

  2. Gravatar Icon admin

    I’m sort of hoping that when the wine is finished, Gary will send it to all the major critics for scoring, then do a WLTV episode with them giving their video-tasting notes. THAT would be interesting.

  3. Gravatar Icon Paul Mabray

    I’d like to see how the cork’d and snooth and winelog ratings of his new wine will compare to that of the critics. It would be nice to have him show that the public votes differently than the critics.

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  4. Gravatar Icon admin

    Thanks Paul. I agree, that would be interesting. However, at 500 cases, most of the people with access to the Vayniac wine will be those who pre-bought it. So they will have an investment in the wine, emotionally as well as financially. This makes that a sticky proposition. It’s all very intriguing, though!

  5. Gravatar Icon Gary Vaynerchuk

    I will save 4 cases to sample out to reviewers and to peeps like u and other bloggers, that can be fun, Sorry to let u down D547..I will keep trying

  6. Gravatar Icon monkuwino

    I’m wondering what sort of pricetag this wine is going to carry..

  7. Gravatar Icon admin

    $38 a bottle (”on sale from $49.99″)

  8. Gravatar Icon admin

    Gary, you were spammed again! don’t know what it is??? We keep approving your comments and then they still wind up in our spam folder which we only check oh so often.

    What can we say? If we weren’t skeptical nobody else would be. Everybody loves you so much (and we have a soft spot too), somebody out here has to keep everything in check.

    Also –moment of honesty– your name drives traffic. So sometimes we’re provocative for selfish reasons (you understand business as well as you understand wine)! Though I doubt any of your fans will want to come shop with us any time soon :(

    Let’s change the wine world together. We’re in for 6 bottles. d547 spreading the love.

  9. Gravatar Icon el jefe

    It IS intriguing but it isn’t revolutionary. I am part of a blogger project from last year. What is different is the size of the project - and Gary V. is the guy who can pull it off. I’m in for the koolaid, because even though I’m in the business, it will be a lot of fun!

  10. Gravatar Icon Kathleen

    I was inspired by Gary V.’s idea! I am currently looking at local wineries that offer wine lovers the same opportunity (hotel, rental car and plane fare to Napa is too high!). There are at least a couple on Long Island. I am visiting one this weekend.
    Kathleen
    Albany, NY

  11. Gravatar Icon Lenn Thompson

    Kathleen…there’s actually only one on Long Island…but I’m talking to them about doing something with them for the 2008 vintage.

    I had a small group ready to do a cab franc at a local vineyard (that doesn’t normally do it) but too many people bailed!

  12. Gravatar Icon Kathleen

    Lenn,
    I love Waters Crest Cab Franc. I’m in for a piece of that barrel if you buy one. Should we do a New York wine blogger barrel?
    Kathleen

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The Business of Saying No:

No, I am not a natural wine merchant.

And no, I am also not not a natural wine merchant.

So what exactly is my store, Domaine LA? This is a tricky question that I try to answer here.
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A couple of months back, I participated in the first annual Los Angeles Natural Wine Week, spearheaded by Lou Amdur of Lou Wine Bar. At that time, I took some heat from a few folks around the Internet who felt I might have been merely capitalizing on a trend and didn’t see me as a true natural wine merchant.

The thing is, I’ve never claimed to be a natural wine merchant. When I started my business online a few years ago, I stated plainly that I wanted to sell wines I loved. I was an enthusiast with a fairly receptive, wide-ranging palate, and I considered learning about wine a journey I would be going on alongside my customers. While I’ve since expanded my business to include a brick and mortar space, my self-conception and mission statement haven’t really changed. But my palate has.

To be absolutely blunt about it, I used to love wines that I simply can’t stomach anymore. There are blog posts archived on my website that in retrospect make me cringe, paragraphs singing the praises of some of the most blatantly manipulated wines in the world. I once criticized a wine bar for not having any Southern Hemisphere selections; it’s now my favorite spot in Los Angeles. And today I carry barely a dozen Southern Hemisphere SKUs myself.

By and large, my palate-shift is reflected in what I bring into the store. Chris Ringland and Mollydooker have been replaced by Eric Texier and Thierry Puzelat; the California fruit- and alcohol-bombs, for the most part, have given way to wines from La Clarine Farm, Donkey and Goat and LIOCO.

As a result of my largely obscure inventory, almost every day I’m faced with customers asking for items that I don’t stock. On a regular basis, I hear:

“Do you have Rombauer Chardonnay?”

No, I answer.

“Do you have Caymus?”

Afraid not, I reply.

“What about Blackstone Merlot?”

So sorry, but no.

“Where’s the Veuve Clicquot? This is a gift. I need the recipient to know it’s nice!”

Sigh.

Saying no to people sets up a potentially risky relationship that may start and end with that one exchange—many customers want what they want and aren’t open to alternative suggestions. In other cases, however, that simple “no” can be the beginning of something beautiful, a dialogue that winds up with a customer who came in looking for the Prisoner instead going home with something like Morgan Twain-Peterson’s Bedrock Heirloom Red, a wine which, while perhaps not 100% natural, is a more honest “made in the vineyard” (yes, I know this is also a cliché) version of what the Prisoner purports to be.

Of course, sometimes that customer really just wants the Prisoner. Which leads me to my major confession here: despite more than a bit of ambivalence, I continue to sell the Prisoner, along with other wines that are by no means natural, wines that are quite frankly manufactured. The Prisoner sits on the shelf right next to the Bedrock Heirloom Red, and for the time being, it will stay there. At least twice a week people come in asking specifically for this wine, and, for several reasons, it’s a request I’m not—yet—willing to deny.

Even though I no longer drink the Prisoner, there was a time–not too long ago–when I did so happily. When I first started getting interested in wine, it was a bottle that captured my imagination and helped launch me on the journey I remain committed to today. So maybe I keep the Prisoner around out of a sense of nostalgia. Or maybe I keep it around to remind me how far I’ve come. Maybe I keep it around hoping that for those who ask for it, it will simply be their starting place just as it was mine.

Or, more cynically, maybe I keep it around because people buy it. Maybe it’s a crutch to lean on when I’m too tired to hand-sell the less familiar items on my shelves. Seeing something recognizable is comforting to consumers, and that comfort somehow lends me credibility; credibility is a precedent to trust. Trust is what enables me to recommend something different to a customer who normally drinks the Prisoner.

In this sense, the Prisoner is of great value to me, not just as an easy sell, but even more so as a gateway to all the other wines I have available. I don’t know that I’d be able to move as much of the Bedrock, an unknown wine with a tiny case production, without the Prisoner right next to it.
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Saying no is extremely hard. Right now, I’m willing to do so 90% of the time, maybe even 95%. Call me a coward or a fake if you want. But I know where I started out, and it’s been a logical evolution. And while I’m headed in a particular direction, guided by my palate, it’s safe to assume I won’t ever be a 100% “natural wine merchant.”

I like to think there’s room for somebody like me—somebody with confidence in her tastes, who also takes into account modes of production in buying decisions; someone who has a particular point of view, yet retains an inclusive attitude. I am strong in my opinions, and enthusiastic in my passions. I never judge my customers, and hope that they’ll be as open-minded and respectful of my offerings as I am of their preferences.

So far, it seems to be working out. In recent months, I’ve brought in only one case of the Prisoner (less than a thousandth of a percent of its total production) for every three cases of the Bedrock (1.3% of its total production).

So, what am I?

I’m not a natural wine merchant. And I’m not not a natural wine merchant.

I’m a work in progress. And I’m okay with that.

wine jargon

Frizzante
From Wikipedia: Frizzante is an Italian wine term term for semi-sparkling wine (as opposed to Spumante, which is generally used for fully sparkling wines). Frizzante wines generally owe their bubbles to a partial secondary fermentation in tank. You might notice a light fizz or tingly sensation on the tongue with a Frizzante wine, compared to the more carbonated sensation that more fully sparkling wines yield.


Scorekage
Okay, so we made up this word yesterday after a great restaurant experience. We brought a bottle of wine with us, expecting to pay a corkage fee. But the restaurant either forgot to charge us the $15, or decided to be nice to us. We scored! Hence, “scorekage” has entered our lexicon. This can also refer to BYO friendly restaurants that don’t charge for corkage under any circumstances.


Frizzante


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